Dang, Brzezinski sounds like he’s trying to join the AWC set
"While other former U.S. officials and ex-generals have criticized administration policy in committee hearings, none savaged it to the degree Brzezinski did.
"‘If the United States continues to be bogged down in a protracted bloody involvement in Iraq, and I emphasize what I am about to say, the final destination on this downhill track is likely to be a head-on conflict with Iran and with much of the world of Islam at large,’ said the security adviser in the Democratic administration of former President Jimmy Carter.
"He set out as a plausible scenario for military collision: Iraq fails to meet benchmarks set by the administration, followed by accusations Iran is responsible for the failure, then a terrorist act or some provocation blamed on Iran, and culminating in so-called defensive U.S. military action against Iran."
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/02/02/america/NA-GEN-US-Clinton-Iran.php
And here we have Hillary really standing up for what is right. Whatta woman!!
Brzezinski’s precision is arresting. And what he describes are the steps with which any person of an earlier Polish nationality would be familiar, the pattern used by National Socialist Germany to provoke World War II.
With the Democrats yesterday pathetically capitulating to a watered down version of a Senate resolution that had initially described the anticipated Bush escalation in Iraq as “not in the national interest”, one can safely set aside the “analysis” at such blogs as Glenn Greenwald’s Unclaimed Territory where immediately post election last November the imbecile enthusiasms of the DNC types setting the tone there were so pronounced. With friends like this …
John Lowell
…Seems that Zbig, Jimma, Baker, Scowcroft et al and have drawn their own line in the sand…We oughta call this dichotomy “When Billionare’s and their Reps fall out.” That and did you guys see McCain, Graham & Co try to lay the blame off on Gen. Casey at the Senate hearings yesterday? He should have told ‘em their policy was Garbage in Garbage out, and other than ruining the US Army, again, as Vietnam did, by redesignating it a Police and Occupation organization, what did you sonsofbitches expect? Miracles?
Wouldn’t you be pissed if you worked so hard to build a World Empire and some jerky Trotskyites stole it from you and wrecked it?
I think it would be nice if these factions destroyed each other forever, but who’s in the wings waiting to replace them?
Like rooting for Charles Manson to take out Jeffrey Dahmer.
Scott: ………………………but who’s in the wings waiting to replace them?
AINT YOU?
Actually Brezinski gets a lot of bad press these days, but everything I’ve heard him say is dead on. Of course all of this mideast war business is utter folly. Everybody knows it. But we will play along and we will continue to play along until Israel has had enough. There is no more United States of America – we are merely satellite functionaries of Tel Aviv. If there was true democracy, we’d be allowed to vote for the Knesset.
“AINT YOU?”
Hell, no. My job is criticizing people with power, not seeking it for myself.
TR would bitch slap you! Don’t you remember his famous quote “It is the man in the arena who counts, not the timid soul who ventures nothing, and know neither the deep sorrow of defeat or the great glory of victory” (okay, I’m adlibbing). I think that quote (whatever it was) was Richard Nixon’s favorite.
The incident with Comedy Central, those marketing punks, and Boston raises an important issue.
Is shutting down a city by placing harmless but majorly distracting signs or sound-emiting devices a legitmate form of protest…
Is it legitimate if that city, oh, say, hypothetically, happens to be Washington…on the eve of a nuclear blitz on Iran in the absence of casus belli…
…Scott…Dude: Who’s waiting in the wings? More sonsofbitches just like ‘em…maybe even worse ones. Mark: I got no beef what so ever with Zbig, plus I like his daughter. Per your take on who determines US Foreign Policy? Yeah, everybody knows it, but, they shrug their shoulders and figure “Fuck it, what can I do? I gotta car payment that’ll be overdue next week and they’re trying to get rid of me at work.” Steve C: I’m hardly a timid soul, and I’m sure as hell no stranger to the “deep sorrow of defeat” after living a constant succession of them, but I don’t know shit about the glory of victory…remember TR was a Politician…John Lowell: Zbig is one of the more direct Realist’s and difficult to intimidate…Phil: I don’t believe in God, but God send your Angles and Ministers of Grace to defend us from that Pernicious Lesbian Beast blaring her insane eyes and already bellowing threats…I’d sooner have another case of DT’s…Ron Jeremy …Ron Jeremy?
No, my name is really something else. That was a joke. Apologies to the real Buttman.
…That’s reassuring…In terms of names I remain who I’ve always been…It’s kinda like a choke chain for the keyboard
Raimondo seems to be pulling hard for Chuck Hagel who is probably the best of the frontline of Republican contenders. He was anti – war before it was in vogues. Other than Ron Paul, he’s about the only guy either REP or DEM I might be able to pull a lever for. One thing, isn’t Hagle married into the Diebold (voting machine) people. That gives me a little pause……..
Do I understand this right?……. Hillary is simultaneously saying she will end the Iraq War …….and saying all options are on the table (including nuclear) in dealing with Iran. How can she have this both ways?
Prediction: GORE WILL GET INTO THIS THING! He will “arrange” to be drafted – and run even though he doesn’t want to.
…Yeah, you understand it right…It’s Doublethink…Hillary’s rank and file followers believe what she says from one minute to the next with no conscious recollection if her ideas conflict. In this sense she’s right outta Orwell and I believe that’s what make her so dangerous. But she’ll never get the nomination. The hard Left’s turned on her…Too much Hillary Warrior Princess of late. Now she’s in a box, better yet a Political bear trap that I don’t see her escaping from…if were lucky anyway… Indeed some of the Orthodox Left still possess an autonomy of reason in this context…the Dems will do an inside hatchet job on her. While her base? There not much different from the zombies in “Night of the Living Dead.” That is to say they’re nuts…Hagel? Hagel’s another Mainstream Conservative Politician with a good war record, and thus the legitimacy to attack the neo-Cons from the Right. He’s an opportunist, turned circumspect and cautious Realist, but Raimondo’s support for him, however tacit this may be, makes perfect sense Politically…Hagel’s present rhetoric is very appealing to a segment of the electorate whose values differ little from ours. Raimondo is quick to realize and seize on this fact of Hagel testing Presidential waters, and will make hay of it…Just not enough.
Hagel is a fresh idea, and beside Raimundo there is enthusiasm for him on the left as well, Robert Scheer, for example. One scenario has him running as an independent. A Catholic, there is no way I could vote for a Democrat and after the war and the 2001 stem cell compromise I’m all done with the Republicans. I just might take a look at Hagel. But after what just happened with the Democrats compromising on the anti-surge resolution, it’ll pay to watch your blogs carefully. Friends won’t be spouting the the DNC line the way its been hyped since the 2006 election at Greenwald’s blog, now at Salon. Call it leftsploitation or self-promotion, the odour there is becoming quite noticable. Many were hoping for a left wing Limbaugh. Looks like they have him.
John Lowell
…Robert Scheer is to my mind a Marxist-Leninist, a subversive, and a cunning intelligent liar Mr. Lowell. But your comment is noted, and again substantiates my contention that Politics are Diabolic
Hello Mace,
Now that we’ve established that Robert Scheer is not likely to be made a member of your family, I must say I’ve been impressed with much of what he’s had to say on the war and the MCA. His social grasp is standard issue left so my interest in him exhausts itself at that boundary. His take on Hagel the other day was principled and my respect for him went up with that one but after watching Hagel on ABC today much of my interest has waned. Wouldn’t identify himself as an “antiwar” politician, simply anti-surge owing to concern about our servicemen being placed in the middle of a civil war. It now seems to me that much too much is being made of Hagel and his prospects, some of the enthusiasm an expression of the hope that springs eternal. Thinking is clearly not Hagel’s strong suit; he has no comprehensive vision.
John Lowell
…True enough Sir, as for Scheer? The Devil ever hath the ability to assume a pleasing form…To be blunt: I do not believe that Scheer is as comprehensively anti-War as is the persona and rhetoric that he exposes to the public on a daily basis. As such, even dawg drunk I can see any expedient liar, like Scheer, clean across Texas and half of Oklahoma. In the end I hope he’ll gag on his own duplicitous words. In fact, I don’t believe any of the mainstream Democrats, but for a few radicals on the Left fringe are in reality nearly as anti-War as they now suddenly profess to be—Why do I say this? Have you heard from John Murtha lately…Hell no…not a peep…We won’t go into the why of it right now, but I don’t the even think that sexy senior Nancy Pelosi, who knifed Murtha in favor of a pro-War Stenny Hoyer is committed to shutting off the money…Bottom line: The overwhelming majority of Democrats voted for the War, and now they’re afraid to vote cutting funds for being called a traitors by Dirty Dick Cheney and the neo-Patroit ex-Marxist neo Cons—So presently? While both partisans can run from that reality, they sure’s hell can’t hide…No way…The Left has been selling out my class for farrrrr too long…et tu Jim Carville