For the third time this week, a retired CIA officer has told Antiwar Radio that U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is the driving force in al Qaedaa€™s recruitment and motivation for attacking America on September 11th.
Ray McGovern, a 27 year veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency, when asked Friday afternoon what he thought of the exchange between Congressman Ron Paul and Rudy Giuliani said (at 23:45 out of 43:23)
a€oeIa€™m really edified by Ron Paul stepping up and stating what he believes to be the case.
a€oeIf you believe that they hate us for our democracy or for our freedoms, well Ia€™ve got a bridge in Brooklyn that Ia€™d really like to sell you at a cut rate.
a€oeThey hate us for our policies and thata€™s what Ron Paul was saying. a€¦
a€oeGiuliani a€¦ really showed his true colors there as a demagogue.a€A
Earlier this week Michael Scheuer, the former chief of the CIAa€™s bin Laden unit and Philip Giraldi, another former CIA counter-terrorism officer, made much the same statements to Antiwar Radio.
McGovern then made the common analogy of terrorists and mosquitos and why the policy should be to a€oedrain the swamp.a€A But rather than advising more invasions in the name of swamp draining as the Bush administration has maintained is their policy, McGovern says if you want to remove the circumstances which create terrorism, by a€oefind[ing] out where these terrorists are breeding.a€A
a€oe[There is a] swamp of grievances dating back decades: Three generations of people living in the equivalent of concentration camps in the West Bank and Gaza, dictatorial regimes in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other places.
a€oeIf you look at those grievances and instead of trying to shoot those terrorists as they leave that swamp, you drain that swamp by addressing those grievances and giving these people some reason to hope for a better future. a€¦
a€oePeople will come back and say, a€Now Ray, for Goda€™s sake, Osama bin Laden doesna€™t give a darn about the Palestinians.a€™ Well, that doesna€™t matter whether he does or he doesna€™t. He knows the kind of resonance that kind of appeal has.a€A
McGovern then quoted the 9/11 Commission Report regarding the motivation of Kahlid Sheik Mohammad, the ringleader of the September 11th attacks:
a€oeKahlid Sheik Mohammad was motivated not by any antipathy resulting from his stay in the United States [where he had attended college years before], but by his profound hatred for U.S. policy toward Israel a€" favoring Israel one-sidedly.a€A
McGovern then summarized a footnote in the back of the 9/11 Commission Report as saying:
a€oeThese are practically the exact words of what Ramzi Yousef - Kahlid Sheik Mohammada€™s nephew - used in bragging about his pride in being condemned to 140 years in a federal penitentiary for trying to knock down one of the Twin Towers back in 1993.a€A
That is indeed what Yousef said.
Also discussed: How the 9/11 Commission whitewashed the role of U.S. Israel policy in their report, How the Dick Cheney-neoconservative cabal lied us into war in Iraq and Teneta€™s failure to stop them, the history of the a€oecrazies in the basement,a€A Bush Jr.a€™s relationship with Cheney in light of Steve Clemonsa€™ scoop about Dick Cheneya€™s efforts to force a war with Iran in an end run around the President, Brent Scowcrofta€™s statement that Ariel Sharon had Bush wrapped around his little finger and why he made it, Cheneya€™s twisted motivations for the exercise of his power, the interest which put Cheney firmly in the camp of the Israel Lobby over most of the rest of the establishment and why he hasna€™t completely given up on the Democrats.
…Ahhhhh Gentlemen once again do we now witness the beginnings of the fate that does ever attend the wicked. The truth is a most painful proposition when it finally arrives to confront those who are arrogant, and thoughtless enough to ignore it. Particularly as a means to further their own greedy interests in furthering Dominion abroad, as always, in the name of “Freedom and Democracy.” …It would appear as if the Chickens are finally coming home to roost—If not shit—all over Richard the Devil Perle’s front porch. Worse, for Richard and his cynical elite Cabal, is the reality that it is only the Vanguard of such an unpleasant species of poultry that has appeared. I would even go so far as to counsel them that: If they, at this unhappy point in the history of their malefactions, decide to institute the beginnings of a tangible Domestic Repression? That it will only serve to expedite in worsening the vulnerable position they have again; through their own recklessness and cant, placed themselves in.
To distill all of that down into a few words: “it’s time to poop or get off the pot…” For both those who seek to subjugate the world and for the people of the nation that is being used as the vehicle for their ambitions.
…Ken that’s shit or get off the pot. Poop sounds like something Bill Mahr would say.
Sorry, let’s compromise. “defecate” is a much better word.
defecate definition
v. def·e·cat·ed, def·e·cat·ing, def·e·cates
v.intr.
To void feces from the bowels.
v.tr. 1. To remove (impurities, as in a chemical solution); clarify.
i’m not a fan of decaf…
…Ahhh! ha! ha! ha! ha!
Ray McGovern sees Cheney as wanting war with Iran, and Bush being Cheney’s ventriloquist’s doll. McGovern and presumably Admiral Fallon think Cheney’s plan is mad.
But has anyone seriously investigated the prospect that it’s Cheney who actually is mad? I mean by that mentally ill. It’s publicly admitted that Cheney has a heart condition. Even if assume that’s true, high doses of heart medication are not without side effects. Still we shouldn’t just accept the public story as valid.
The fact that he shot his shooting buddy presumably indicates some mental health problem. It was ascribed to a heart condition. Heart conditions are pretty common, being accidentally shot by someone with one, does not strike me as a common event. How many other examples of accidental shooting by heart condition sufferer occur in the US every year? I don’t know but my guess is about zero.
This speculation isn’t conspiracy mongering it’s a historically validated precaution. You don’t have to turn further than The Discovery Channel for historical precedents of presidents and prime ministers running their nations whilst under heavy medication, often for medical conditions that are kept secret from the general public, mainly for reasons of protecting the personal power and career of the political leader in question. The risks to their nations of having a medically incompetent ruler apparently ranks as a low priority as few (if any) nations have a publicly open and accountable system to drug test or health test their rulers.
Discovery ran a series called “Altered Statesmen” that examined the psycho-pharmacological state of various historical international leaders. If this kind of thing has happened before, it can happen again. What actually has happened is possible. It is amazing the number of otherwise intelligent people who just don’t comprehend that.
…True enough. Kennedy operated under cortisone and a cocktail of prescribed drugs. Nixon was a paranoid, taking Dilantin, and then drinking himself into a stupor on an regular basis. Reagan had Alzheimer’s by the start of his 2nd term.