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Yesterday- Ms. Clinton said again the lie that we started bombing because Sadam withdrew the inspectors But WE withdrew the inspectors in preparation to starting unilateral bombing.
Where can I get definitive documentation to show to skeptics? Maybe Ron Paul can use this in a debate, with documentation at the ready, because it will be easy to sucker an opponent into repeating this lie, and then RP can hit back with the truth, and describe the source. This was one reason Ms. Clinton gave for voting for the war. One of them. The other (this is a laugh) is because she didn’t want to prevent Bush from being able to go to war at will (without going back to Congress )
cause it would make the US seem to be subordinate to UN declarations. ???
WHAT. Obama said nothing when presented with these lies.
Scott – WOW—that is GREAT NEWS for the cause of Liberty! That will be an incredible advisory team.
And if you get into “the sounds of liberty,” staring Dr. Paul, here is a good speech he gave at the Mises Institute clarifying the ideas of peace, reason and free markets…in 2005. http://mises.org/multimedia/mp3/aefm/Paul.mp3
And being a fellow Southerner you might understand why Robert E. Lee is looked upon with such disdain by many state-worshiping historians and Lincoln cultists.
Let’s consider the lament of Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America and its role in the history of the U.S.:
“If centralism is ultimately to prevail; if our entire system of free Institutions as established by our common ancestors is to be subverted, and an Empire is to be established in their stead; if that is to be the last scene of the great tragic drama now being enacted: then, be assured, that we of the South will be acquitted, not only in our own consciences, but in the judgment of mankind, of all responsibility for so terrible a catastrophe, and from all guilt of so great a crime against humanity.”
And, Mr. Antiwar Radio, since we are still fighting many of the same battles as our ancestors i.e. defending States’ Rights and classical liberalism over those of an intrusive, oppressive national leviathan, maybe we can suffer our burden a bit easier when men like General Lee, Randolph Bourne, A.J. Nock, H.L. Mencken, Mises, Rothbard, Rockwell, Dr. Paul and many others are thought of as people on the “fringe”.
Besides, when the whole of this tragic tale is told, we should look fondly upon the words of Herman Melville and remember all is not lost.
In his poem Lee in the Capitol from 1866 Melville laments:
“Who looks at Lee must think of Washington;
In pain must think, and hide the thought,
So deep with grievous meaning it is fraught.”
Peter, here is the bbc timeline, inspectors were certainly not thrown out by Saddam in 03, in fact they were beginning to get more cooperation from Saddam but needed more time, but then they were told to evacuate, which makes sense, if the inspectors were about to report the truth then the neo-cons couldn’t have had there war-
Good interview with Allan Hyde. I second Paul’s request for audio of that. People try so hard to discount these polls when they don’t like the numbers.
Scott,
While I’m not a huge Alan Combs fan, I think you’re being a little hard on him. He’s on Faux News, as the token Democrat, so he has to be a bit of a douche. But, when he’s sitting next to Sean Hannity (an even bigger douche in my opinion) and giving the extra short post-debate interview with Ron Paul at least he’s the less outright dishonest of the two.
Also, while the current bloody trainwreck of US foreign policy did kind of start with Woody Wilson, saying it’s all his fault kind of denies all the murderous responsibility to his contemporaries like the Bushes, Clintons, and McCains of the world.
Haha, he’s playing a 1935 documentary called “Dealers of Death” (or something) that was an inter-war period antiwar film that predicted much of what later happened. Minus the extensive chemical weapon usage predicted (well, except the Nazi deathcamp stuff gas chambers anyway).
Great show Scott, only caught the last hour or so but the documentary was great, now I have to watch it and see the footage too. Seems back then they knew why wars happened, I didn’t hear them say “they hate our freedom” once! And yes, thanks for pointing our what a major douche Alan Combs is, the willing straw man “liberal” of Fox news that they can tear down and let make weak arguments, then claim YEA WERE FAIR! LIBERALS LOVE ALAN!
Mr. Anders-
I have trouble connecting too but my changes improve a great deal if i connect 5 minutes before the show starts. After the show has started, maybe I am mistaken here, but it seems like all the streams are taken already. It’s like the room has just so many folding chairs, and when all are in use- thats all she wrote for proposed new listeners. The mp3 idea is good. Some of the shows are archived I think on the antiwar site under radio or something. Scot is really an awesome character. Somehow he deserves national exposure instead of this dinky little net radio /Texas almost pirate radio joke power radio station. (sorry KAOS).
Scott, the other day when you were rudy bashing on your show you picked on the fact that he married his cousin? In a lot of cultures it’s perfectly acceptable to do that, and besides who does it affect apart from the two people getting married. How can you defend the right to be homosexual but have a problem with this?
Rudy is still a creepy, thuggish, tranny, warmongering statist regardless of the morality, ethics, or whatever else might be involved in cousin-marrying.
With what we know about human genetics, it shows a lack of common sense and the circumstances of how he cheated on his previous spouse showed a lack of character. What I find most amusing is the fact that dopey Pat Robertson actually endorsed him. Now thats funny!!
He is a public figure and open to criticism especially after the self righteous GOP was screaming for 8 years about Clinton’s escapades. Clinton and Guiliani are one in the same.
I don’t care about Guiliani, I’m not bringing this up to defend him.
From what I understand of Libertarian principles from listening to this show all these years, broadly speaking an individual is free to do what ever they want provided it doesn’t infringe on anyone elses rights, right? People in other cultures marry cousins all the time. There is no genetic problem with it, its not like brother and sister.
Given that it’s not hurting anyone, namely the resulting children, my question is why would a libertarian have an issue with it? If Guiliani was gay, would it be an issue? I mean to me it would, but then I’m not a Libertarian.
Along those same lines what up with that “Liberty” sticker that says “Sean Hannity is a big faggot” ? So much for not discrimi-hating. Not very libertarian at all…
Fess up Horton….. I’d recognize that homophobic tirade anywhere…… Admit it…. Your RP’s Newsletter ghostwriter….What’s even more shocking is based upon the earliest letters, you’ve been spewing that hatred since your early teen years. C’mon man….Let it out….Confession is good for the soul. You’d be doing RP a serious solid at the same time.
Yesterday- Ms. Clinton said again the lie that we started bombing because Sadam withdrew the inspectors But WE withdrew the inspectors in preparation to starting unilateral bombing.
Where can I get definitive documentation to show to skeptics? Maybe Ron Paul can use this in a debate, with documentation at the ready, because it will be easy to sucker an opponent into repeating this lie, and then RP can hit back with the truth, and describe the source. This was one reason Ms. Clinton gave for voting for the war. One of them. The other (this is a laugh) is because she didn’t want to prevent Bush from being able to go to war at will (without going back to Congress )
cause it would make the US seem to be subordinate to UN declarations. ???
WHAT. Obama said nothing when presented with these lies.
Scott (or anyone), please post this interview soon.
Scott – WOW—that is GREAT NEWS for the cause of Liberty! That will be an incredible advisory team.
And if you get into “the sounds of liberty,” staring Dr. Paul, here is a good speech he gave at the Mises Institute clarifying the ideas of peace, reason and free markets…in 2005.
http://mises.org/multimedia/mp3/aefm/Paul.mp3
And being a fellow Southerner you might understand why Robert E. Lee is looked upon with such disdain by many state-worshiping historians and Lincoln cultists.
Let’s consider the lament of Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America and its role in the history of the U.S.:
“If centralism is ultimately to prevail; if our entire system of free Institutions as established by our common ancestors is to be subverted, and an Empire is to be established in their stead; if that is to be the last scene of the great tragic drama now being enacted: then, be assured, that we of the South will be acquitted, not only in our own consciences, but in the judgment of mankind, of all responsibility for so terrible a catastrophe, and from all guilt of so great a crime against humanity.”
And, Mr. Antiwar Radio, since we are still fighting many of the same battles as our ancestors i.e. defending States’ Rights and classical liberalism over those of an intrusive, oppressive national leviathan, maybe we can suffer our burden a bit easier when men like General Lee, Randolph Bourne, A.J. Nock, H.L. Mencken, Mises, Rothbard, Rockwell, Dr. Paul and many others are thought of as people on the “fringe”.
Besides, when the whole of this tragic tale is told, we should look fondly upon the words of Herman Melville and remember all is not lost.
In his poem Lee in the Capitol from 1866 Melville laments:
“Who looks at Lee must think of Washington;
In pain must think, and hide the thought,
So deep with grievous meaning it is fraught.”
Peter, here is the bbc timeline, inspectors were certainly not thrown out by Saddam in 03, in fact they were beginning to get more cooperation from Saddam but needed more time, but then they were told to evacuate, which makes sense, if the inspectors were about to report the truth then the neo-cons couldn’t have had there war-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/737483.stm
Good link Anders. They leave out much from the late 90′s though so here are a few links that show Mr. (and Mrs.) Clinton’s bombing as a good thing.
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/U.S._changed_Iraq_policy_to_begin_airstrikes_months_before_0630.html
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraq-013098.htm
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:S41_DdW7B1kJ:www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/02/20/98022006_tpo.html+clinton+begins+bombing+iraq+1998&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=20&gl=us
Good interview with Allan Hyde. I second Paul’s request for audio of that. People try so hard to discount these polls when they don’t like the numbers.
for some reason i can never listen to the shows live, does anyone archive them as mp3 or some other format ?
Scott,
While I’m not a huge Alan Combs fan, I think you’re being a little hard on him. He’s on Faux News, as the token Democrat, so he has to be a bit of a douche. But, when he’s sitting next to Sean Hannity (an even bigger douche in my opinion) and giving the extra short post-debate interview with Ron Paul at least he’s the less outright dishonest of the two.
Also, while the current bloody trainwreck of US foreign policy did kind of start with Woody Wilson, saying it’s all his fault kind of denies all the murderous responsibility to his contemporaries like the Bushes, Clintons, and McCains of the world.
From the documentary, “…it cost $25,000 to kill each soldier in the last war.”
I wonder how much it has cost to kill each “terrorist” in Iraq so far?
Okay, so I am a little late to the show, but why does Scott sound like a 1920′s narrator?
Haha, he’s playing a 1935 documentary called “Dealers of Death” (or something) that was an inter-war period antiwar film that predicted much of what later happened. Minus the extensive chemical weapon usage predicted (well, except the Nazi deathcamp stuff gas chambers anyway).
>Okay, so I am a little late to the show, but why does Scott sound like a 1920’s narrator?
Scott is very versatile.
Dude can do anything.
Great show Scott, only caught the last hour or so but the documentary was great, now I have to watch it and see the footage too. Seems back then they knew why wars happened, I didn’t hear them say “they hate our freedom” once! And yes, thanks for pointing our what a major douche Alan Combs is, the willing straw man “liberal” of Fox news that they can tear down and let make weak arguments, then claim YEA WERE FAIR! LIBERALS LOVE ALAN!
Mr. Anders-
I have trouble connecting too but my changes improve a great deal if i connect 5 minutes before the show starts. After the show has started, maybe I am mistaken here, but it seems like all the streams are taken already. It’s like the room has just so many folding chairs, and when all are in use- thats all she wrote for proposed new listeners. The mp3 idea is good. Some of the shows are archived I think on the antiwar site under radio or something. Scot is really an awesome character. Somehow he deserves national exposure instead of this dinky little net radio /Texas almost pirate radio joke power radio station. (sorry KAOS).
Great show today! Cuttin and Jibin!
Breaking story: American Conservative Magazine endorses Ron Paul
http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_02_11/feature.html
Ah it works if i put it through real player, i was trying to listen in a window and it wasn’t working.
Anders, and anyone else, I have the show from today plus the others from this week. Just need to know how to get them to you if you want them.
Maybe someone knows a website where you can get free storage space
I think Ozzy does. I sent him a link to this discussion, so hopefully he’ll drop by with answers.
Today’s show here http://www.4filehosting.com/file/93503/The-Show-01-02-08-mp3.html I apologise for the background noise, I am going to look for some better recording software.
It would still be good to have an area of the site they could be uploaded.
Thanks for that James, appreciated.
no worries
Scott, the other day when you were rudy bashing on your show you picked on the fact that he married his cousin? In a lot of cultures it’s perfectly acceptable to do that, and besides who does it affect apart from the two people getting married. How can you defend the right to be homosexual but have a problem with this?
Rudy is still a creepy, thuggish, tranny, warmongering statist regardless of the morality, ethics, or whatever else might be involved in cousin-marrying.
No doubt … but just as a general point it didn’t seem to be consistent with Liberatarian principles.
I didn’t say he should be jailed for that.
I didn’t say you did, I just wonder why it’s an issue at all.
James,
Regarding Rudy marrying his cousin:
With what we know about human genetics, it shows a lack of common sense and the circumstances of how he cheated on his previous spouse showed a lack of character. What I find most amusing is the fact that dopey Pat Robertson actually endorsed him. Now thats funny!!
He is a public figure and open to criticism especially after the self righteous GOP was screaming for 8 years about Clinton’s escapades. Clinton and Guiliani are one in the same.
I don’t care about Guiliani, I’m not bringing this up to defend him.
From what I understand of Libertarian principles from listening to this show all these years, broadly speaking an individual is free to do what ever they want provided it doesn’t infringe on anyone elses rights, right? People in other cultures marry cousins all the time. There is no genetic problem with it, its not like brother and sister.
Given that it’s not hurting anyone, namely the resulting children, my question is why would a libertarian have an issue with it? If Guiliani was gay, would it be an issue? I mean to me it would, but then I’m not a Libertarian.
Many thanks to whoever posted the Hyde interview on antiwar.com
James,
Along those same lines what up with that “Liberty” sticker that says “Sean Hannity is a big faggot” ? So much for not discrimi-hating. Not very libertarian at all…
Jesus Christ, you guys need to lighten up.
HA! Scott Horton is a big faggot!
And you know how I know you’re gay…you’re wearing baby blue trackpants…
…and the fact you listen to coldplay has nothing to with it!
Jesus Christ, you guys need to lighten up.
Fess up Horton….. I’d recognize that homophobic tirade anywhere…… Admit it…. Your RP’s Newsletter ghostwriter….What’s even more shocking is based upon the earliest letters, you’ve been spewing that hatred since your early teen years. C’mon man….Let it out….Confession is good for the soul. You’d be doing RP a serious solid at the same time.
baby blue trackpants?