Comments on: The Madness of John McCain http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/ Scott Horton\'s Blog Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:23:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Scott http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-39703 Scott Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:34:46 +0000 http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/#comment-39703 "I clearly remember this article in 1993 when it was first printed." --Cool. That makes it mean more right there for sure since they provided no link or anything. "how do you reconcile a paper like theirs" --Not sure what you mean. I don't reconcile it. I mean sure, the rightwing/nationalist/Jew-hating/"Patriot"/Spotlight types have been right about certain stories, but it's the context that they have all fucked up. Even in that article, the RIIA/CFR are the center of Zionism rather than WASPyness? Come on. To me, anything kookier than The New American is not worth the time. And I don't really even read them anymore now that Will's gone. Interesting note about Indyk, but there are many imperialist theorists of many descriptions who push the same sort of "rogue state rollback" without Israel much in mind at all. “I clearly remember this article in 1993 when it was first printed.”

–Cool. That makes it mean more right there for sure since they provided no link or anything.

“how do you reconcile a paper like theirs”

–Not sure what you mean. I don’t reconcile it. I mean sure, the rightwing/nationalist/Jew-hating/”Patriot”/Spotlight types have been right about certain stories, but it’s the context that they have all fucked up. Even in that article, the RIIA/CFR are the center of Zionism rather than WASPyness? Come on. To me, anything kookier than The New American is not worth the time. And I don’t really even read them anymore now that Will’s gone.

Interesting note about Indyk, but there are many imperialist theorists of many descriptions who push the same sort of “rogue state rollback” without Israel much in mind at all.

]]> By: phil http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-39702 phil Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:20:02 +0000 http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/#comment-39702 Scott I have issues with AFP also but I clearly remember this article in 1993 when it was first printed. They have been right about many things going back into the 1960's. They have won awards for Project Censored in the past. My question for you is how do you reconcile a paper like theirs which has some pretty good reporters? Scott

I have issues with AFP also but I clearly remember this article in 1993 when it was first printed. They have been right about many things going back into the 1960’s. They have won awards for Project Censored in the past.

My question for you is how do you reconcile a paper like theirs which has some pretty good reporters?

]]> By: Andy http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-39699 Andy Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:45:22 +0000 http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/#comment-39699 the most interesting thing about that article is mccain's former position on lebanon and the war in iraq. just like the cheney that explains why we didn't move onto baghdad in the first gulf war. how did two seemingly intelligent, rationale leaders do an about face? what happened? are they being blackmailed? bribed? the most interesting thing about that article is mccain’s former position on lebanon and the war in iraq. just like the cheney that explains why we didn’t move onto baghdad in the first gulf war. how did two seemingly intelligent, rationale leaders do an about face? what happened? are they being blackmailed? bribed?

]]> By: Scott http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-39696 Scott Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:36:46 +0000 http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/#comment-39696 I read the article and that wouldn't surprise me, though I consider the "other" AFP to be trash. Actually, I consider both AFPs to be trash, now that I think about it... I read the article and that wouldn’t surprise me, though I consider the “other” AFP to be trash.

Actually, I consider both AFPs to be trash, now that I think about it…

]]> By: phil http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-39694 phil Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:02:24 +0000 http://thestressblog.com/2008/02/02/the-madness-of-john-mccain/#comment-39694 And I wonder where old Johnny Boy first heard this term "rogue state roll back": "The scheme for “rogue states rollback” is, in fact, part of a long-range plan by higher-ups in the international policymaking elite, specifically the hard-line supporters of Israel. This plan for “rogue states rollback”—specifically targeting Iraq and Iran—was first enunciated on May 22, 1993, in a then-secret speech by a former Israeli government propagandist, Martin Indyk before the Washington Institute on Near East Affairs, a private, pro-Israel pressure group. " And I wonder where old Johnny Boy first heard this term “rogue state roll back”:

“The scheme for “rogue states rollback” is, in fact, part of a long-range plan by higher-ups in the international policymaking elite, specifically the hard-line supporters of Israel. This plan for “rogue states rollback”—specifically targeting Iraq and Iran—was first enunciated on May 22, 1993, in a then-secret speech by a former Israeli government propagandist, Martin Indyk before the Washington Institute on Near East Affairs, a private, pro-Israel pressure group. “

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