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The Debate Will Be Televised
6:30 PM Central Time Thursday.
On the 7th anniversary of the terrorist attacks, Dr. Harvey Kushner and Mr. Scott Horton will debate the following question: “Is the United States pursuing the correct strategy against international terrorism?”
Debate to be held in the Rudder Theater at Texas A&M on September 11, 2008 at 6:30pm.
Recorded show can be viewed here.
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Prepare thyself, Scott Horton, Kushner knows of the unlimited evil of our enemies and how they will stop at nothing to destroy us for no reason other than their hate of progress. On a serious note, are any major networks televising it or just UStream?
Oh, I don’t think so. Not that I know of. Heck I’m pretty stoked it’ll be on JustinTV. : )
I’ll watch and be on IRC for it. Anders should catch it, but it’s like 2AM his time.
It will be around midnight. Hope someone is recording it :)
It will truly be a Good vs Evil speech. Hopefully, the listeners will realize who the Good Guy is. If they start yelling “Give us Barrabbas”, you know you have a bad crowd.
What is the link for Justin TV?
I can’t wait, tear the imperial doctrine to shreds Scott!
pleeze someone download and youtube it. (if permission is granted)i cant right now… check how to grab a stream from JustinTV or wherever.
7 cops shoot homeless man 47 times. He had a toy gun.http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=6382051Also”How terrorist groups end”http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9351/index1.html
Of the 648 groups that were active at some point between 1968 and 2006, a total of 268 ended during that period. Another 136 groups splintered, and 244 remained active. As depicted in the figure, the authors found that most ended for one of two reasons: They were penetrated and eliminated by local police and intelligence agencies (40 percent), or they reached a peaceful political accommodation with their government (43 percent). Most terrorist groups that ended because of politics sought narrow policy goals. The narrower the goals, the more likely the group was to achieve them through political accommodation — and thus the more likely the government and terrorists were to reach a negotiated settlement.
How 268 Terrorist Groups Worldwide Ended, 1968–2006
In 10 percent of cases, terrorist groups ended because they achieved victory. Military force led to the end of terrorist groups in 7 percent of cases. The authors found that militaries tended to be most effective when used against terrorist groups engaged in insurgencies in which the groups were large, well armed, and well organized. But against most terrorist groups, military force was usually too blunt an instrument.
Key to this strategy is replacing the war-on-terrorism orientation with the kind of counterterrorism approach that is employed by most governments facing significant terrorist threats today. Calling the efforts a war on terrorism raises public expectations — both in the United States and elsewhere — that there is a battlefield solution. It also tends to legitimize the terrorists’ view that they are conducting a jihad (holy war) against the United States and elevates them to the status of holy warriors. Terrorists should be perceived as criminals, not holy warriors.
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Good luck Scott, not that you need it cus the truth is behind you, but these guys are lizards and know dirty tricks, be aware man and GOOD LUCK AGAIN!!!!
Scott will do fine….just remember the 3 points to successfully debating a Neocon:1) Affect a British Accent…it will give you an air of authority 2) Be sure to quote extensively from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion….your shear audacity to bring us this text will leave your opponent speechless and 3) When making key points remove your shoe and bang it on the table just like Kruschev at the UN…. (do not wear sneakers)….Use these three key and a debate victory is virtually assured.
anyone else hearing country and western music ? : )
fraid so, “if bin laden wuz heere” blah blah.the direct link to the video (a little bigger)http://www.ustream.tv/channel/yct-a&m-terrorism-debate
What terrible music! Nationalist rightwing warmongering anthems. God, I love pretty much all music, but this state worship is unbearable.
yep, pop counrty really sucks.
Actually, hate to admit it, but I kind of like pop country. But I HATE nationalist crap. I kind of like America the Beautiful, but I’m souring on that one too.
well, any time I mistakenly hear some of the crap, on whatever top forty country station that some choob is giving themselves hearing damage on, it emanates the stench of polished black knee-high boots and diesel exhaust. not that there aren’t some credible musicians in that genre, they’re just buried under the mass of homological faux-patriotic refuse.
oh, and the alternate version of the national anthem that was used during the medal ceremonies in the ‘water cube’ was the best I’ve ever heard in my life. absolut beauty. ; )
I’ve been trying to find it online, but no luck, yet.
Boy that tune is awesome…..Really makes we wanna fry some sandniggers….anyone know the group or the song….maybe scott can use it as bumper music….
Yep, that’s county music these days… not that I ever liked the stuff to begin with. Gee… I wonder if this will be a “fair” debate? Judging from the music selections…
ITS TOBY KEITH’S COURTESY OF THE RED WHITE AND BLUE……(I googled the lyrics)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFs8wTK2tfg
Shit…. Now Lee Greenwood…. God Bless the USA?? WTF — music excerpted from the GOP Convention? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lee+greenwood+god+bless+the+usa&search_type=&aq=1&oq=LEE+GREE
I posted a link to the stream over at Vox Day’s site, some pretty cool Christian libertarian types hang out around there. In a roundabout way, it’s what lead me to Antiwar, Scott’s show, Goyette, LRC/Mises.org… and lead me to put down the Limbaugh koolaid.
Maybe for some Neo - Lib balance they can play Neil Diamond’s COMING TO AMERICAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtMmSU88PdA
Oh god please kill me before this fucking “music” does. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
godam, i wish i were there. looks like its air conditioned.
a few of us are in the chat room if anyone wants to join us ? .
Great job in the debate Scott. God that guy was like some creepy Ghouliani clone.
You rocked, Horton!
Did you refuse to shake your hand? It looked like it. Dick!
Kushner’s argument in a nutshell:
There are 150 million crazy fundamentalists we have to kill…
Good thing Israel is just like us or “they would be flying planes into us!”
Pardon me, I was too excited. I meant to say, did HE refuse to shake YOUR hand.
Awesome Scott!
Where’s the chat room?
What is scary is how much racism and hate can come out of someone’s mouth…
no doubt, Jose.
I wonder if Scott balked on throwing the ‘racist’ card out on that, because of time constraints.
The fine Doctor was kind of a prick. I thought you answered the question of “whether we are more endangered by either presidential candidate” quite clearly, they both support the premise of preemption, intervention, and the status quo. Intervention, obviously being an agitator and cause of violence and terrorism, will beget more terror, endangering us further. Was I hallucinating when you apparently “did not address the question”?
Also, I liked his comments mentioning disdain towards people who get their facts from books, newspapers, and television, and analysts. Where does he get his ‘facts’ from, God??
His characterization of the Muslims reminds me of the portrait painted by the Nazis about the Jews.
“There is this evil ethnic and religious group who wants to destroy our society. We have to exterminate them”
You’re right, Jose. That is his what his plan boils down to: kill 150 million Muslims. What else could he mean? There was nothing else there.
great work scott!
The thing I like about Harvey is that he’s a real fact based kind of guy.
He doesn’t get his information from no newspaper clipping or what some guy says, he gets it from experience.
And we all know that Israel did not create Hamas that’s just not true.
And we all know Al qaeda hates us because they’re muslim, and it says it in the koran.
pmlol!
**link to recorded show added to post.
I couldn’t get any audio in the recorded show. Did anyone else get the same problem?
I do now. maybe it broke due to the automatic start thing killing all their bandwidth or something?
me too, I think I had a problem with the browser. A reboot fixed it
Great job Scott!
You’re ready for the big time now. You were very relaxed and transformed your radio persona onto a live audience excellently.Democracy Now… -look out!Not to take anything away from Scott, but the Republican party is totally in the toilet. If McCain is their best prospect for prez and this dolt is their foreign policy expert. Man. How embarrassing.
I had no idea that this turd that Scott debated was on the board of ACT.
no wonder I could barely keep the puke down.
Oh yeah, for a good laugh look at this loser’s website. He looks like some kind of hitler youth reject… http://www.harveykushner.com/
it’s hard to believe that he could tear himself away from NationalServitude events in NYC tonight.
Here is the new campaign button for McCain
prosperity? security?– nah–
Team USA- We will kick your but.
Excellent debate Scott. I’m forwarding the link to friends and email lists that I’m on.
Don’t ever worry about losing your train of thought. It shows that you are real, and not just spouting talking points. You recovered very well anyway. I’m sorry to even bring it up, but it was the only moment that you weren’t kicking his ass the entire night.
I just can’t believe someone would even debate this…(from the side of Kushner) The people that are dumb enough to believe this is true do not watch debates…
Scott, I’d like to congratulate you on a job well done. How is it that this taxi driving, skateboarding, Minor Threat, Bad Brains, and Black Flag listening dude without a major degree can totally wallop a PhD in a debate on every point? And use more perfect English grammar besides?No kidding I thought I’ve seen it all. If there was a single Republican left walking out of the audience, I would be shocked and appalled.At any rate, some place ought to grant you the damn PhD, already, because you both need and deserve the credential of Dr. Horton.I’m not s***ing you.
You’ve always been very kind Oscar. Thanks.
You sir are a genius, and one of the best teachers I’ve ever had. If I may offer you any advice it is this: seize these moments and this time in your life to achieve the greatness that you are destined for, and don’t stop till you’ve realized all your dreams.
Fess up Scott…. That Toby Keith and Lee Greenwood music they were playing before the debate got you pumped up………or were you wearing your walkman listening to AMERICA FUCK YEAH before the throwdown w/ Harve….Also, please get back to me regarding those Kushner books…I hear they are flying off the shelf….
You should’ve kicked his ass (physically) after the debate, it would have been fun and you would’ve gotten 20000000000000 youtube views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGo3ANHxilI
Good job anyway + that dude was clearly mad.
http://www.xbox3sixty.co.uk/e107_images/newspost_images/pwned.jpg
Yeah, you could also have parted Kushner’s hair (if he had any) with a good WWE steel chair shot.
lol there’s a second Scott Horton lovefest (or Kushner hatefest) going on at antiwar.com
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/09/12/scott-horton-debates-the-war-party/#comments
Scott should be feeling the love by now. God I hope so.
http://hurky.com/cgi-bin/download.cgi?rec=2452Kushner’s portion is classic Non-Sequitor argument. He would have failed English class when he was “in school a long time ago when it took two days to go around the world”. http://mw1.m-w.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur
The first link is broken.
Try this one:http://www.hurky.com/cgi-bin/sound.cgi?category=Star+Trek&st=10
Click on #17, I don’t know how to embed.
Heh. : )
http://www.antiwar.com/henderson/?articleid=13462
Now it’s time to abandon all your beliefs and become a pundit for fox news!
Come on you know you want it.
http://fruitfly.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ailes.jpg
wow. jerkoff versus jerkoff live on the innernet. wow. i’m teling like all my friends on http://www.noonegivesashit.com
Jerk
Scott Horton rulz
Scott….I know why Kushner would not shake your hand……………http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMKd1sL6FPIHe got Keith Olbermann’s worst person in the world award …. and you didn’t even congratulate him….HOW DARE YOU…